I have no positive feelings about the Patriots, but Tommy is the GOAT and it's not close. His win with Tampa Bay and the Pats's subsequent implosion is the kind of random-controlled trial we rarely get IRL and it proved definitive.
Objectively, Mahomes is already a top-10 QB all-time and still could achieve GOAT status. But he's looked washed the past two years -- the Chiefs have been carried by an elite defense -- and he was finally (finally!) punished for his reckless play. The pick-six on his throw across his body into the middle of the field has been seven fucking years in the making.
My wife is a nascent Chiefs fan (she's from Missouri and got into football when we met) and I'm pretty neutral on the franchise overall. That said, last night they definitely got what they deserved.
Mahomes is indisputably a Top 5 QB at the very least--he'd be on my Mount Rushmore along with Brady, Peyton Manning, and Joe Montana. What he's done to begin his career is insane, and the Chiefs run from 2018-now is the best pinnacle of any team in NFL history. I'm not even a Chiefs hater as much as I just find sports commentary annoying; they were ready to anoint Mahomes as the GOAT before he even won his second Super Bowl.
To your second point, if Brady was considered a system QB until his fifth Super Bowl win, not sure how that couldn't apply to Mahomes when he got to sit behind a pro-bowl QB his rookie year, has an all-time offensive coach, an all-time tight end, Tyreek Hill, mostly good O-Line play, and great defenses spearheaded by one of the best D-coordinators of the past decade. He's obviously talented, clutch, and a great competitor, but he has benefitted from a lot, and it still remains unknown how he will fare when all these other pieces leave KC, how his game will age into his 30s, and how the AFC West will shake out now that every team in the division has a Hall of Fame coach. We can't project Brady's longevity onto everyone.
All this goes to show that quarterback is the most important position, but it's the most overrated as well.
I’m not gonna sit here and argue that Tom Brady isn’t the GOAT. Clearly he is. And that’s coming from a long-suffering 40+ year Dolphins fan. Having said that, I’m not sure that Brady, even in his prime, would have had much success against that Eagles pass rush.
Mahomes was under pressure for about 2/3 of his drop backs. Even with his quick pass ability and his ability to scramble, the Eagles were getting to him all night with only a four man pass rush, leaving 7 in coverage. He also wasn’t helped by some of his receivers with drops at important moments. As the game became one dimensional due to the large lead, with Mahomes needing to pass on every drive, it only became worse.
Honestly, I’m happy the Chiefs lost as I’ve been tired of them for some time. Despite being a Dolphins fan, I was hoping for a Bills-Commanders SB (with the Commanders winning of course). But ultimately, when I’m watching the Super Bowl I usually prefer to see a great game, which this wasn’t.
The Eagles were simply a buzzsaw and they would've beaten any team in the league playing the way they did. I mostly wrote this in response to the decade-long blowjob the media has given Mahomes, not against him as a talent. Regardless, he could retire today and be easily a top 5, maybe top 3, QB.
But if Mahomes is going to get all this praise despite benefitting from playing with Andy Reid, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Steve Spagnuolo, mostly good O-line play, and good to great defenses, then he gets his fair share of the blame for the two blowouts KC lost. I agree this is a stupid dynamic, but it is one that has been established by the sports media, so I'm happy to use their logic against them.
Football commentary places too much praise and blame on the quarterback position since this is the ultimate team sport, and we're seeing a general deterioration of rosters because QB salaries are getting bloated when there are really 3-5 guys who can singlehandedly elevate flawed rosters.
I have no positive feelings about the Patriots, but Tommy is the GOAT and it's not close. His win with Tampa Bay and the Pats's subsequent implosion is the kind of random-controlled trial we rarely get IRL and it proved definitive.
Objectively, Mahomes is already a top-10 QB all-time and still could achieve GOAT status. But he's looked washed the past two years -- the Chiefs have been carried by an elite defense -- and he was finally (finally!) punished for his reckless play. The pick-six on his throw across his body into the middle of the field has been seven fucking years in the making.
My wife is a nascent Chiefs fan (she's from Missouri and got into football when we met) and I'm pretty neutral on the franchise overall. That said, last night they definitely got what they deserved.
Mahomes is indisputably a Top 5 QB at the very least--he'd be on my Mount Rushmore along with Brady, Peyton Manning, and Joe Montana. What he's done to begin his career is insane, and the Chiefs run from 2018-now is the best pinnacle of any team in NFL history. I'm not even a Chiefs hater as much as I just find sports commentary annoying; they were ready to anoint Mahomes as the GOAT before he even won his second Super Bowl.
To your second point, if Brady was considered a system QB until his fifth Super Bowl win, not sure how that couldn't apply to Mahomes when he got to sit behind a pro-bowl QB his rookie year, has an all-time offensive coach, an all-time tight end, Tyreek Hill, mostly good O-Line play, and great defenses spearheaded by one of the best D-coordinators of the past decade. He's obviously talented, clutch, and a great competitor, but he has benefitted from a lot, and it still remains unknown how he will fare when all these other pieces leave KC, how his game will age into his 30s, and how the AFC West will shake out now that every team in the division has a Hall of Fame coach. We can't project Brady's longevity onto everyone.
All this goes to show that quarterback is the most important position, but it's the most overrated as well.
I’m not gonna sit here and argue that Tom Brady isn’t the GOAT. Clearly he is. And that’s coming from a long-suffering 40+ year Dolphins fan. Having said that, I’m not sure that Brady, even in his prime, would have had much success against that Eagles pass rush.
Mahomes was under pressure for about 2/3 of his drop backs. Even with his quick pass ability and his ability to scramble, the Eagles were getting to him all night with only a four man pass rush, leaving 7 in coverage. He also wasn’t helped by some of his receivers with drops at important moments. As the game became one dimensional due to the large lead, with Mahomes needing to pass on every drive, it only became worse.
Honestly, I’m happy the Chiefs lost as I’ve been tired of them for some time. Despite being a Dolphins fan, I was hoping for a Bills-Commanders SB (with the Commanders winning of course). But ultimately, when I’m watching the Super Bowl I usually prefer to see a great game, which this wasn’t.
The Eagles were simply a buzzsaw and they would've beaten any team in the league playing the way they did. I mostly wrote this in response to the decade-long blowjob the media has given Mahomes, not against him as a talent. Regardless, he could retire today and be easily a top 5, maybe top 3, QB.
But if Mahomes is going to get all this praise despite benefitting from playing with Andy Reid, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Steve Spagnuolo, mostly good O-line play, and good to great defenses, then he gets his fair share of the blame for the two blowouts KC lost. I agree this is a stupid dynamic, but it is one that has been established by the sports media, so I'm happy to use their logic against them.
Football commentary places too much praise and blame on the quarterback position since this is the ultimate team sport, and we're seeing a general deterioration of rosters because QB salaries are getting bloated when there are really 3-5 guys who can singlehandedly elevate flawed rosters.
Definitely a fair point with the o-line he’s had and the skill players. He does seem to get a little too much love from the media